Authentic Achievements with Special Guest Pete Lowe
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[Music]
0:05[Applause] hello and welcome to this episode of authentic achievements where I’m
0:11delighted to be joined by my good friend Pete L Pete welcome hello Kim how are you I’m good thank you I’m so looking
0:18forward to this conversation but before we get stuck in let me just um introduce you more formally to people who might
0:24not know you yet so petlo is a transformative figure in football development renowned for his 10 at
0:30Manchester City Football Club with 39 graduates reaching first team football and 23 becoming International Players
0:37Pete’s leadership yielded numerous titles and a remarkable 60 million pound return on investment beyond the pitch
0:44Pete translates his sporting success into winning business strategies inspiring teams with honesty and
0:50directness his anecdotes from the Premier League resonate offer offering practical insights from unlocking
0:56organizational potential Pete Lo’s proven methodologies eval Elevate teams
1:01and Forge a path to unparalleled success and you’ve had some amazing Stories over
1:07your journey which started as a teacher didn’t it before you moved into into the
1:13premier so can you tell us a little bit about your journey so far please oh the journey Kim the journey is a long one um
1:21long one and interesting one yeah I did um 14 years as a teacher and I’m really pleased I did I
1:29enjoyed teaching um but then a new challenge came along
1:34and that was professional football and because I’m the sort of person that loves a challenge I was never going to
1:39turn it down no matter what um so you go from a world of security into a world of
1:46complete insecurity um which didn’t bother me that was part of the challenge at the
1:51end of the day and from that point onwards I forged
1:56um a career if you like um I can’t lie that I’ve been very lucky along the way
2:02you know I met some good people who were um um very helpful and I met some great
2:08people that I eventually worked with properly at Manchester City um we were a
2:14heck of a team to say the least um so it’s been a long journey so
2:19that was 14 years as a teacher and about 25 in football part-time and
2:26full-time so whilst I was a teacher I was I moved into football on a part-time basis then that eventually became
2:33full-time kame wow so I bet you’ve had some amazing experiences particularly in
2:40um helping people with their mindset and getting them getting them to be like you
2:45to like take on the challenge and not let it step you back so what would you say has been the thing you’re proudest
2:52of so far oh that’s a heck of that’s a really good question that I if I’m honest I
3:00always come back to this and it was adapting to a change to moving from an organization or from work where you were
3:07educating people to a place where you had to start educating in a different
3:13way including educating yourself as well because it was a change of
3:19environment and he used the word mindset there so that was the first thing that
3:24hit me Kim was that unless you started to understand that failure is something
3:30that is going to happen so you have to accept that okay
3:36but never be accepting of it and what I mean by that is that it happens but once
3:41it’s happened you’ve been given a gift yeah and and the gift is is knowing
3:47how to learn to use it so it’s no longer an adversity it’s a challenge and there
3:53is a difference between the two in my opinion yeah so I think the thing I would say in reflecting the answer to
4:01that is that it was really just adapting to understanding what high performance
4:07meant and actually how to produce it yeah yeah I love that and
4:13it’s all in that reframe isn’t it because you know it’s not the mistake that defines us it’s what we do with the mistake and and we take from it and how
4:21we you know how we how we take that and evolve it so that we um so that we
4:27improve I can’t remember whose quote it was but um some somebody was saying that actually you um professionals
4:35don’t uh don’t practice until they get it right they practice till they can’t get it wrong um they just keep them that
4:43you can never ever be perfect in which case you just keep practicing you just keep honing that skill so what advice
4:50would you give to people when they’re when they’re feeling stuck when they’re in that place where they’re like I don’t
4:57it feels like every time I try and do this it fails what can I do differently to see the lesson in here rather than
5:04just feel the failure okay so the the really important word there’s one word that you used in
5:11that that question and and that is differently how do I do it differently
5:18because it’s a bit like when you were saying to permit me to say this when you
5:23were speaking to a group of players where you actually might have lost a game okay and um the game that you’ve
5:30lost you’ve been beaten by a much better team on the day and yet your players have play played
5:36terrifically okay they played really really well according to how you wanted them to play the next time you play the
5:43opposition you might choose to do it differently that’s just the point so different makes reference not just some
5:49to something that’s going poorly if you like but somewhere along the line where
5:54we have to actually change Tech to do something in a different way because we
5:59need different results in the way of putting something that’s a mindset issue but my absolute advice goes like this
6:07you have to stick at it that’s the first thing is it because it comes back to the previous thing that I said about failure
6:13failure is a gift when you’re prepared to see what it is it’s a gift you’ve been given an
6:20opportunity to do it again simple as that and you might fail again that’s
6:26fine by the way all you’re doing all the time throughout of this is building adversity this this ability to manage
6:34adversity because that’s a tough gig by the way and you have to learn to do that
6:39over a period of time one of the key things that I did though Kim was this I
6:44always made sure I had somebody to speak to I made sure that I had somebody who
6:50was a trusted Soul somebody that I could reach out with my soul to their soul I believe in
6:56that by the way yeah we don’t speak know from the soul we speak sometimes in cold
7:03driven hard facts of black and white numbers and um theories from a book and
7:09somebody said this and somebody said that none of it means anything unless you believe in it yeah and has to come
7:16from your soul so I found a trusty person I stuck with that person believed
7:22in that person and I know that person believed in me that person was somebody that originally wasn’t a friend by the
7:29way but who became one but I also knew that that person would tell me the truth no
7:35matter what even if I didn’t like it yeah and I stuck with that but the first
7:41bit is you can’t give up because giving up is too damn easy yeah I love that and it’s so
7:48important that you find somebody isn’t it to to to support you know I was used to call it my critical best friend and
7:55the Reas my critical best friend is the best friend meant that they were were always doing it a position of love Yeah
8:01and physical piece being they’d let me know you let me know that the outfit didn’t look great before I headed out
8:06for the night not actually at the end of the night yeah you should have seen what you look like um so I think it’s so important that you kind of you have that
8:13we have that support and we get out of our own heads because I think sometimes what we say to ourselves internally
8:20sounds so but the minute you say it out loud to another human being you
8:25sometimes see for yourself that it’s just not helping you in any way don’t you absolutely completely I mean getting out
8:32of your own way was a key aspect in in in anything that you would did you would do with um with a young performer in any
8:40environment let alone it be football it could be anything including business as well by the way because part of the
8:46skill of leadership excuse me I hope I’m not stealing questions from you here but part of the skill of leadership is
8:52getting out of people’s way and letting them do a job to the point by they can
8:58only do that by the way if they know you’re an authentic person in other words you aren’t the devil who wears PR
9:05who jumps out the corridor when things go wrong and do it in a different way because you’re looking to create a blame
9:10culture yeah so trust and respect and all of that that goes with that you know all the defining words of which we could
9:17sit here till infinite and keep coming up with words again once again none of those mean absolutely anything
9:23whatsoever unless you believe in them and that that they come from an authentic voice that’s so true believing
9:32in them walking them as well it’s like being making sure that they are part of your DNA because people people see when
9:40the you know when the lips and hips don’t match when what you say and what you do aren’t aligning then people won’t
9:46follow you they they won’t they won’t trust you and I think for me that’s that’s always been one of those really
9:52important things is to create that trusted safe space where people aren’t
9:57afraid to fail as say they set out with it as their goal but where they know
10:02that if they do is you know that’s not going to be the end of them there’s absolutely for them to learn so how best
10:09do do you go around creating that trusted environment for
10:14people you know people use the word culture now um it’s become a buzzword
10:20hasn’t it in today’s modern world I don’t know whether people used
10:26it less years ago I haven’t got a clue to be quite honest with you what I do know is it’s really
10:31relevant I genuinely believe that so you know creation of culture isn’t about
10:37putting beautiful pictures on walls you know with all these fantastic quotes when you walk down corridors and this
10:43that and the other the problem with that there it’s a little bit like de decorating your room again for the first
10:49time in three or four years when you re redecorate your room again you can smell
10:55new paint but after a while you become totally habituated to it and you completely ignore it that’s the same
11:02with you know all these Posh things that you go down corridors and you look at them and this man said this and this
11:07lady said that and none of it get means anything unless you follow what it says
11:13plain and simple it has this trusting environment has to come from somebody
11:20who truly is authentic I’ve used that word X number of times already you know
11:25it it’s your your podcast here authentic achievement it couldn’t be nothing could
11:31be truer in in a title really authentic achievement says it all you can only
11:38achieve if you are authentic you might achieve once by the way you might achieve twice but you’ll never achieve
11:44time and again yeah because achieving time and again comes from a true winning
11:51mindset it comes from somebody who knows how to win knowing how to win and I’m
11:57using football phrases if you like but I actually believe that these are phrases that transfer right over to other areas
12:04is that true winning mindsets is delved out by people who have beliefs in how an
12:10environment should work now there’s no point me saying what those beliefs are because you’ve got your beliefs I have
12:17mine whatever that might be but they then have to live and it’s not just about about
12:23talking the talk you’ve got to walk the walk so people have to be able to walk
12:29the work with you they have to be part of that journey and a real critical
12:34thing and I really believe this Kim and this is the addage of the great All Blacks one Captain 15
12:40leaders yeah yeah not just one leader everybody has to become a leader at
12:47first they might be followers now there will be people who listen to this who might go hold on a minute not everybody
12:54wants to be a leader I agree but everybody has a perspective where they
12:59can step up to leadership Only If For minutes at a time so in other words they
13:05take now what I think is the first part of a Winner’s mindset they accept
13:10responsibilities yeah yeah because you have to that’s what winners do that’s how you generate great results
13:18but it originally comes from somebody who’s utterly responsible for the entire
13:24environment who has a belief that this is how we I want this place to operate
13:30and he influences mindsets or she influences mindsets they go out there
13:36and they do it and they don’t sit in offices thinking that fantastic images
13:41on walls and stuff like that are going to do it and sending emails to each other making a phone call can you will
13:47you have you all that Ty it doesn’t work you have to influence mindsets before
13:54you can do anything and keep doing that because that never stops well no it’s
14:00constantly it we win it in here before we win yes absolutely and that’s true
14:07also of our people isn’t it and and I think you’re quite right not everybody wants to be a leader in title in the
14:14role but actually each and every one of us is the leader of our own life so developing those leadership skills and
14:21being able to set our own Direction allows us to regain some control and I
14:27think sometimes it’s the title that puts people off is it it’s the they want the the title but actually they they’d quite
14:33like to have more of more of the autonomy that comes from that
14:39accountability yes completely um you know I mean what is in a title uh I mean
14:44some people think that’s really important a good friend of mine in in another football club had this really
14:49long title given to his um to his job description to this day he always turns around and says I’m still working out
14:56what it meant you know I mean I mean and yet everybody loved to use it when they spoke to him and he was the only person
15:03that didn’t like to use it so once again this the whole thing is all about
15:09mindset yeah you either have a mindset to want to move things on or not and and
15:14let’s be honest the one thing that really frightens everybody is the word change yeah they see the word change as
15:24something that’s going to create potentially a cataclysm for
15:30and yet if change is explained appropriately people seeing the word change opportunity yeah
15:38yeah but often it’s not described appropriately how many times during a
15:44working week do we have to make minor changes I could even begin
15:52to when the Thunderbolt strikes and it hits the deck it’s something that we
15:57can’t control anyway but what a thunderbolt creates is something where
16:03we have to actually create a change now because it leaves small cataclysms all over the place and so we have to react
16:10to them that’s one thing I learned very quickly from professional football game
16:17was that if you want a good result next time round you got to work dned hard for it plain and simple yeah and that had to
16:25be drilled into players mindsets yeah and I think from how you’ve explained
16:33reframing frame it badly it will have a bad impact if we positively um then
16:40things go better and change is always uncomfortable even for are leading the
16:46change because you’re right there is opportunity in it but there’s equally the unknown in it and actually it’s the
16:52unknown that we emotionally respond to while we’re desperately trying to get
16:57ourselves to that point of actually this is an opportunity and we’ve got a chance to do something different and I think
17:04yes acknowledging that it’s uncomfortable can be a huge step forward for people to be able to accept that
17:11change and get ready for it because all of a sudden they’re not in the wrong to feel uncomfortable because change is
17:18uncomfortable but it is a constant isn’t it in the world we live in today that it almost is the only consistent thing is
17:26change is g to happen well question I me see change equals fear in many ways and
17:32fear is the number one performance obstacle and always will be fear is created in loads and loads of ways
17:38people who lack confidence or self-belief if you like who have transient confidence and transient
17:45self-belief in very great speeding levels if you like they lose those
17:50periods of confidence very quickly are people who who always have to be um
17:56reminded how good they are at doing something but that’s part of a Leader’s job their job is not when they make
18:06mistakes is to find a means of creating a blame culture because all that does is
18:11increase the level of fear and so if you want to if you want somebody to step up
18:17to the plate and yet you make the plate so D hot that they can’t stand on it they ain’t going to do that it’s as
18:23simple as that because they have a survival Instinct that will keep them away from an area where they’re going to
18:29be in a place where fear hurts them even more because that’s what fear does it
18:36hurts it hurts to the degree where your people who are so damn good at what they do won’t step up to the
18:43plate so what we’re talking about here is excuse me being deviant is emotional
18:49intelligence it’s really really important it’s Mega important it is
18:57yet it’s often off is a soft skill isn’t it which always makes me smile because it’s like if it really was such a soft
19:03skill why do people find it so hard to empathize with other people and and kind
19:08of consider the human impact that whatever we’re going through could be having on the person that you’re
19:15leading um you’ve just said something so profoundly true there one of the best
19:21things I ever did my job in professional football was have a responsibility towards bringing
19:28somebody into to do work with coaches her name was Gwen Byam um I don’t know
19:33if she’ll ever listen to this I hope that she does but what the work that she did was all on the area of soft skills
19:40it had nothing to do with coaching on a coaching ground or anything like that
19:46because I started to understand as I became more mature if you like in terms
19:51of thinking not in terms of age of course but in terms of thinking uh about
19:56how to work with younger play younger products and work with coaches was that
20:01the bit that was missing more than anything was the understanding of
20:07themselves how could they ask somebody to start understanding themselves more
20:13if they themselves didn’t understand who they were that just doesn’t work it’s a
20:18step too far and it’s completely irrational you know how many times I
20:24have heard somebody say to a player you need to show more confidence you need to
20:29be more have more self-belief and then one day a player turned around and said how do I do
20:37that and the and the answer couldn’t be given because it’s just a generic
20:43comment that’s being thrown out there but the implications are of course that
20:48you’re not very confident because you don’t ball and shout and around on goodness knows what
20:55um no you’ve got to understand yourself it’s the soft skills Kim are just
21:01massively important that’s so true is about what you were just saying as well as the
21:07other bit that’s really important is element introspection that element of being able to look Inward and get to
21:13know yourself and understand where are those areas where actually you will feel
21:19Fe fear faster than perhaps other people within that particular situation and where are those areas where actually
21:25you’ll be the one that can lead people through it because you’re your confident in those spaces and I think we spend a
21:31lot of time telling people how to fix things outwardly and go and get more advice but actually really knowing who
21:37you are first is the key step isn’t it to being able to achieve whatever you’re
21:45destined to achieve authentically there was a point reasonably early in my career when
21:53I understood that what I had to stop doing was coaching footballers
21:59and start understanding people more and it was quite a defining moment for me and it happened you know when
22:06I’ve actually been given a video of um in the early days of the use of video by
22:12the way it was really early days of the use of it nobody had any idea whatsoever how to use stats and stuff from games
22:19and um clips and this that and the other it was all new stuff why should have been new stuff beats the hel Academy
22:25because we’ve been looking at playbacks on much of the day and goodness knows what for ages so it’s the same thing if
22:31you like but having been given a video I’ve told friends this many times uh I
22:38turned the video on and um the video showed the coach from the touchline and the coach on the touchline was uh it was
22:46almost like um an echo of Radio 5 live yeah it was nothing but do this do
22:53this do this do this ex all that type of stuff there isn’t a human being that act
22:58positively in that environment just isn’t and that coach was me and the frightening thing for me was
23:06that I never thought I was like that but I found out I was and I and I sat down and two five
23:15minutes of chill time and uh real using your phrase in introspection and going
23:21inside myself and going my God am I expecting these players to
23:27develop in this environment and I just went right this has to change and so I sat down and um created a plan for
23:34personal change and I did it that day it lasted all week I carried on doing it all week
23:41brought in my friend who I spoke to on many occasions that’s all we did all week was speak about this stuff and um
23:50somebody who had a great deal of experience and I just think I thought
23:55what the heck I’m going for it and that’s exactly what what I did so I became a mentor for the one of a better
24:01way of saying it I started Mentor players more ask them questions more how
24:06would you do it differently which is why I was so chuffed that was one of the few words the first words that used right at
24:13the beginning of this how might you do it differently when you think about it like that the IND implication is that
24:20what you’re not doing when you say that to somebody is that why have you done it that way you
24:27you’re not saying it like that you’re not creating fear and threat you know the worst word you can use when you’re
24:34asking somebody about a result that’s being achieved is why yeah why because
24:41it can be used in so many different ways for example Kim why did you do
24:46that why on Earth have you done that because it’s faced with body language
24:52and body Lang is a killer if used inappropriately so things I try really
24:59hard to when I’m you know I’m any questions is having why in them I try
25:05and get myself to think about what what else could I say so I make it a how
25:11question could I make it a what question could I make it you know something slightly different because inadvertently
25:17sometimes we start with why and actually that takes us back to a childhood where
25:23maybe that’s so we got the why on Earth would you do that I got I’ll be honest I
25:29got quite a lot um and it does it shuts you down to the art of the possible
25:34doesn’t it to to the what could be different and actually how could you do
25:39that differently when we’ve done things well as much as we do it when we have done things that haven’t gone so well
25:46then actually we become less fearful of that continual learning don’t
25:51we absolutely correct I mean it’s a bit easy for me to speak like this if you
25:56like to some degree because I was a teacher a million years ago but once a teacher always a teacher
26:04you never forget how to teach yeah and this that word of Education or using the
26:10Latin of educar which I think is correct you don’t lose that mindset towards it
26:17and I genuinely believe that in everybody that I worked with there was a gold a golden nugget inside of
26:23them but sometimes we don’t spend time trying to find out what it
26:30is quite the contr I’ve made reference to you on several occasions about a
26:36person that I appointed in my department by the name of Luke and I describe him to today even to
26:43today as the only Pi Piper I’ve ever met in my entire life he was a pi Piper he
26:49taught me something I used to stand and watch that his
26:55um body language and speech with players is was outstanding truly outstanding it was
27:02laced in empathy and it can’t be you can’t be empathetic if you are not
27:08authentic because being authentic is the foundation of becoming
27:14empathetic yeah yeah yeah firmly believe that these are my beliefs by the way
27:19there’ll be people who listen to this that don’t agree with me I’m fine I’m all right with that because that creates
27:25good conversation anyway but this was a Pied Piper wherever he went the little rats
27:32wanted to follow so to speak yeah and that’s in a pleasant term in saying that
27:38he created endearment he created a desire for them to want to hang by what
27:44things that he said so if people ever ask me is the one person that you’ve ever appointed in a
27:52job that you would go yes that’s the one he’s the one no question no question
27:58told him to his face many times many times he had an ability
28:04and I think if I was in a position now where if you like I had to try and point
28:11somebody in a really key position I would absolutely look for a pie Piper yeah
28:17absolutely they’re worth their weight in gold it’s the biggest gold nugget you’ll ever
28:23find I love that so true isn’t it because if you can build that empathy if you can build that environment for
28:30people to flourish people want to stay there they want to stay somewhere where they feel empowered and that they I
28:37guess more importantly than anything else that they know that you’ve got their back um because that’s one of the big fears isn’t it that like you know we
28:44we can go hero to zero and that’s always a worry whereas if you’ve got a leader
28:49who has created that safe space where actually you can’t go hero to zero all you can do is learn all you can do is is
28:56keep growing keep developing then actually we’re willing to take appropriate risk and that’s when we
29:02start to innovate we start to be more curious about what is the art of the
29:07possible what are the other opportunities for us to succeed yeah without question you know
29:13the very first time I ever spoke to you I I learned something that I hadn’t even thought about okay I’ve never told you
29:20this I’m going to tell you now anyway I learned something I always used to use
29:25the word curiosity because I’ve always believed that Curiosity never killed a
29:32leader C most people would say being curious is being nosy all right if it is I’ll accept that Curiosity implies to me
29:40a greater level of intelligence than being nosy you use the word passionately
29:46curious and and that stuck with me to be quite honest with you it stuck with me greatly because just with one word in
29:54front of another word which I believe in that word curious being being curious
29:59you put something in front of which means do it with a real passion do it with your heart now you got a chance
30:07because the word influence is massive how we choose to continually
30:12influence the people we work with will be the reason that we get the results
30:17that we get and if we don’t get the results that we get don’t go looking at
30:22your people first look inside yourself because you’re the boss and it
30:28is your incumbent responsibility to ensure that before they do their jobs
30:34you do yours better yeah that’s so important that it
30:41is I built my career on
30:46curi I’d love to understand how it is that we came up with this and why why we
30:52I don’t like why was why is it we’ve set it up this way and what are the reasons what are the drivers because when you
30:58have those kind of conversations You’ be amazed what you find and and it just unlocks so much doesn’t it so much with
31:05us if you could go back and give your younger self a piece of advice what
31:10would it
31:17be all I’m I’m pausing because I want to I want to ensure that I understand what
31:22I say correctly um I’ve used the word for you and I
31:29think that I would absolutely understand try to understand
31:34myself better when I was going into football when I went into teaching going
31:40into teaching was a Taj different than going into football um going into football was
31:45frightening it was a new place um uh I was completely out of any
31:53security completely um and you take in with you fear when that’s the case and
32:00fear is a killer it stops you from performing so the advice that I would give now if I was studying a room of
32:08young people wanting to progress into football or whatever that might be or
32:13people in business I would say responsibility makes you step up to the
32:19plate but it absolutely creates fears there’s no question about that and fear is
32:26something you have to come to term with so this is the advice I would give me understand what my triggers were for
32:32those fears a lot quicker than I did because understanding what takes you to
32:38the point of fear allows you to be able to deal with that now you can step up to
32:44courage K but you can’t step up to courage unless you know what those those
32:50worries are in the first place because that’s just a conundrum so that’s that would be my advice that’s what I would
32:56say to me if I was looking at me in the mirror and the last bit I would equally say is don’t ever forget that sometimes
33:04when you look in a mirror you might not like what’s looking back at you so don’t be worried and frightened about changing
33:10it you got to do that plain and simple I love that is so true isn’t it
33:16because you that is I think often the thing that we’re most fearful of is that we’ll you know we’ll look in Mirror not
33:21like what we see but we get to we get to change that if we don’t like it we get
33:26to develop and do something a bit different and I think that you know knowing your fear because courage isn’t
33:33the absence of fear it’s knowing your fear and working through it yes feeling
33:39anyway a lack of Courage can be a lack of understanding of the fear you know very quickly I would say to you every
33:45time I went into a changing room with players particularly on game day I absolutely made sure that I understood
33:52the walls of the changing room were a mirror yeah yeah they were a mirror where the players would see me from any
33:58angle where they were sitting I had to make sure that the reflection in the mirror was the one I wanted them to
34:05see plain and simple that I wanted them to work with and that was really really
34:11important because when they left the changing room to go into the gladiatorial amphitheater on the grass
34:17they had to believe that the man on the touch line was with them that his soul was with them and that every time his
34:24heartbeat there’s beat it as well and and that might sound a little bit corny
34:30I really really believe in that stuff that’s when you know your people will
34:36follow you and after a while they’ll start to lead one Captain 15 leaders
34:43it’s a great phrase it is a great phrase I think it is that that combination that
34:48you’ve talked about of being passionately curious but consistently
34:53intentional so described being like you know being really present in the moment
35:00and considering how you’re going to reflect in that mirror of the changing
35:05room and that takes consistent and conscious Choice doesn’t it it’s about
35:13yeah being intentional in what we’re doing as well as being curious about the
35:18possible you’ve just described all all the words that fit into that phrase
35:24authentic and people ask what is authentic leadership you’ve just D it him and because that’s exactly what it
35:30is it’s consistency it’s about knowing that actually um when your
35:39behavior reflects a pattern sometimes when things have gone wrong that surprises
35:46people that’s a worry for some people because the implications in that
35:52is that you’re looking to pin a tail of blame on the nearest donkey and that’s
35:58not right that’s inappropriate your behaviors should always be
36:03consistent because it’s your behaviors that might ensure that the effort and
36:11commitment that your people are about to give you is not what it should be
36:17because when people are frightened they step back in terms of commitment they step away they step back
36:24confidence lacks self-belief disappears and the two things are slightly different you know they they disappear
36:31and I’m going to say this I I I know that this will be absolutely disagreed
36:36with by some people I believe in ego I believe in I believe ego and
36:44confidence sleep in the same bed I think that they work together but
36:50when ego goes Rogue and becomes egotism then that’s dangerous and so I don’t take the adage
36:58when people say leave your ego outside the room I take I say no please bring
37:03your ego inside the room because I want to see it I want to hear it I want to
37:10experience it I want to know what it can give other people how it can influence
37:15and inject other people with Realms of enthusiasm that they might not
37:22have that’s that’s a little bit of something that maybe another
37:27organization doesn’t have and in your in your work environment you’ve just found a Maverick a Maverick performer who does
37:36things slightly differently he’s got 5% more than other people have that doesn’t
37:41make him or she better it makes them different but what they have to now know
37:47is that they have a responsibility to infuse the the other parts of the
37:53environment with what they have so they can share it and it becomes a team a
37:59team effort because the whole thing is about team it’s not about an individual it’s so
38:06true create that space where everybody has their part to play and part is
38:11equally important they might be um as flashy as each other but they’re equally
38:18important is always the sum of the parts that is greater than the individual elements isn’t it and when we create
38:24that yeah we have great without question it’s always a some of the parts I mean so it would be really
38:32rather strange if somebody like me came on to a podcast who’ve been in the environment that I’ve been in and didn’t
38:37talk about team you know nobody is bigger or greater than anybody else but there are always levels of potential
38:45inside that area that sometimes other people look at when the things when the chips are down a little bit who can we
38:53look to to light the spark that’s when your Maverick performance after step but
38:58they like the spark and then other people make the spark really burn brightly yeah now you’ve got a team I
39:07love that in touch with you so that they can
39:15benefit from your wisdom and uh and your models to help organizations to really
39:21create that performing culture thank you for the word wisdom I never even considered that in relation with the
39:28name Peter low but anyway they can certainly find me on LinkedIn okay um I
39:34have a strong profile on that Instagram is uh Peter Lo Peter l91 Peter l91 or
39:43your first team they can get me on that one as well and I’m happy to give my um
39:49mobile number which is 07 5315 38302 or email address email me at Pete
39:58um get Pete p.com pete.com and I details are in the
40:07below thank you Kim time to write all of those down don’t worry they are in the notes down here Pete it has been an
40:14absolute pleasure as always I really look forward to next time and for everybody listening I hope you found it
40:21insightful and I highly recommend that you get in touch with Pete and continue the conversation until next time take
40:28care thank
40:34you